1) Mach 10 is Hypersonic+, not Hypersonic. Characters or objects that can destroy a moon, or an astrological object of similar proportion. At first these statements may seem like hyperbole but Ok so I have a question in regards to Infinite speed feats. However, in a Timeless Void, time does not exist, making Time = Not Applicable. They perceive infinite speed characters as completely frozen, and they can travel forward and backward in time at will. The extent to which time is slowed down should also be stated, if possible. Characters or objects that can create/destroy multiple solar systems. well i was wondering why these feats are not accepted on the wiki The speed could be immeasurable because the tier of that structure is 1-C or this speed will depend on the context. In order for it to also be reaction speed "In the blink of an eye" So, I've encountered words like this several times, across different novels and such, but, I dont understand what it means, as in, how much? Blitzing is different than outpacing, where a character is simply faster than the other. Autonomous body reactions for humans can also reach as high as 40 milliseconds, but this is oftentimes inapplicable to reaction speed and shouldn't be used. The Rosine feat. VS Battles Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. Hence, the value obtained is the energy required to destroy two solar systems at a realistic distance. The speed at which a character or object can move by running, or through similar means that do not involve flight or teleportation. Similarly, "Hypoverse" is derived from "hypo", which is used as a suffix to mean being "under", "lesser than", or "below" something. In such a scenario, what do we give Could someone help me by finding out the FPS of this video and then telling me how to find how many frames are in any given time frame? Given Fandom's system update to the Unified Community Platform, our old internal forums have been shut down. When it comes to scaling such speed to other attacks or characters a high amount of scrutiny is necessary. When measured in terms of a single movement of often undefined, small distance, humans have displayed between 300 millisecond (below average human) to 100 millisecond (peak human) reactions. InbredSnowman 3 yr. ago can someone clear this up for me if its wrong. Character B then ends up blitzing Character A. Note that, if the High 1-B structure in question is a hierarchy of levels of existence, then simply being at the top of such a hierarchy does not qualify a character for this tier without more context, and an additional layer added on top of the "infinity-th" level of this hierarchy is likewise not enough. Characters or objects that can affect structures with a number of dimensions greater than the set of natural numbers, meaning in simple terms that the number of dimensions is aleph-1 (An uncountably infinite number, assumed to be the cardinality of the real numbers themselves), and therefore that such objects fully exceed High 1-B structures, which have only a countably infinite number of dimensions. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! It is measured in units of energy. Jotaro Kujo (Eyes of Heaven) / Heaven Ascension DIO ( Surperior to MIH and GER by a large margin and consistently blitz each other on multiple occasions) 4. As another example, let's say that character A uses a minigun on character B, but the minigun takes a second or two to charge up and Character B sees this. X = Baseline Infinite Speed. The reasons for our Human and Athlete level borders. One somewhat similar example of a "blitz" in real life would be a person getting shot. But it can often be difficult to pinpoint when exactly a speed advantage constitutes a "blitz." Tiers between 9-A and 3-B, even those which do correspond with their namesakes, should not be assigned unless there are accepted calculations, multipliers, and/or reliably stated precise Joule values that correspond with those ratings, as many verses can have their own context result in these feats being above or below their namesakes. Characters or objects that can create/destroy a large star. Dimensional axes are at the end of the day, directions to keep it simple. Hence, characters that destroy mountains or islands are not automatically mountain or island level, especially if they are small. Character B is then introduced who is stated to be LS yet they have no showings to corroborate that. I've seen the sentiment echoed in a few places (by @Wokistan off-site, by @KingTempest in this thread) that the difference between reaction speed and combat speed is that combat speed involves physical movements (such as dodging). So this character can literally hit a meteorite in the air, he scales to Meteorite speed? Timeless Voids, i.e. This can be extrapolated to larger cardinal numbers as well, such as aleph-3, aleph-4, and so on, and works in much the same way as 1-C and 1-B in that regard. For more information, Infinite speed characters are so fast, they move faster than time can flow at any period. On top of resulting in a stomp/spite match more often then not. The term " Speed " normally refers to Combat Speed . Credits to VS Battles Wiki Speed is simply how fast a character can move in a given amount of time. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. According to this VFX source, Faora-Ul can move so fast she is capable of breaking the sound barrier. He has a fascination with speedrunning, which allowed him to gain reality warping powers. When evaluating speed feats resulting in infinite speed a high amount of scrutiny should be applied. There are five types of speed used for VS purposes: Attack Speed, Combat Speed, Reaction Speed, Travel Speed, and Flight Speed. After over 1.5 years of debate we have finally reached enough staff consensus to perform the does destroying an infinite area within a time grant infinite attack speed? VS Battles Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. Characters or objects capable of exerting force comparable to that of more athletic humans, such as trained fighters or generally physically fit individuals. VS Battles Wiki. The FC/OC VS Battles Wiki is a community primarily centered around individual projects, so it goes without saying . Speed Blitz is the act of one attacking their opponent before they are capable of perceiving or reacting to them. We do have a content filter in place that prevents our members from posting various ethnic, sexist, and religious slur words, but please still try to be extremely careful to avoid them (including misspelled versions, with separated letters, or even by quoting somebody else) or the Fandom staff might globally block you for very long periods of time. The note on Thor's page says he "can limit his speed if he wants to, which should be considered before scaling other characters to him". Volume of Mercury: 3.30681m. A character that is omnipresent within a certain space is not necessarily swifter than all non-omnipresent beings. if the speed is equalized to Hello, I wanted to make a discussion. Why does Ladybug scale to Cat Blanc's FTL beam? Immeasurable speed vs. For that reason, crossing Universes is unquantifiable for speed unless details are specifically stated. This is the same reason why multiple temporal dimensions also grant immeasurable speed. But short and concise, I think both of Guts' best speed feats are presented incorrectly. This term should be used sparingly. We have moved to a new external forum hosted at https://vsbattles.com. They perceive every finite speed character as completely frozen and it takes 0 time to react to any finite speed object or travel finite speed distance. Vs battle wiki is full of nonsense and yeah Saitama is on something like a Namek saga character, to be honest. Where we analyze and discuss the most ridiculous of memes, OC's, and parodies in order to find the best of the worst! Characters or objects that can create/destroy small stars. traveling through space. Tiers between 9-A and 3-B, even those which do correspond with their namesakes, should not be assigned unless there are accepted calculations, multipliers, and/or reliably stated precise Joule values that correspond with those ratings, as many verses can have their own context result in these feats being above or below their namesakes. I began discussing this in another thread. Volume: 6.61362m. Characters or objects that can destroy urban city blocks or equivalent areas of space. I've seen profiles like Majestia and Supergirl use the speed of objects they throw for the rating of combat and reaction speed. Given that S = D/T, if T is undefined the speed formula cannot be applied. This thread is only attempting to review and correct some honest mistakes and add some more What Tier would LN Hinata fall in+her speed (up to latest volume) i know that they aren't officially translated yet. Mirket a scientest also states akir is so fast that he ran around the world in 2 minutes and was gonna Hello I don't know how to calc stuff and really need this to be calced. Omnipresence must be specified in conjunction with the scale. Speed is simply how fast a character can move in a given amount of time. As @Therefir first correctly states; Galaxies in fiction tend to be destroyed completely, not dissociated. Im trying to do a speed calc for the shot where the front-runner of the race pans from the left to the right of the screen. Can this character upscale to baseline Sub-Rel? Travel Speed For general discussions, and match-ups of various sorts, you can visit the forums. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact AKM sama if you encounter any problems. Man, is it outdated. Examples include ducking backwards to dodge bullets and diving away to dodge extremely fast vehicles. Question Time! Which version should we use? So what's the problem? Standard Format for Civilization Profiles, Power-scaling Rules for Marvel and DC Comics, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information, For profile content revision requests, go to, If a specific important feat for a notable franchise needs to be calculated to properly scale one, or preferably several, characters, you can ask about it. There are five types of speed used for VS purposes: Attack Speed, Combat Speed, Reaction Speed, Travel Speed, and Flight Speed. Basically, which character/verse has the biggest scaling chain? Benetnash ( Infinitely faster than infinite) 3. If so how would we actually decide how one feat is superior than the other exactly? If a character travels or flies very fast through a very empty terrain, in which it doesn't necessarily have to react to sudden obstacles, the speed in question is travel or flight speed, but not necessarily reaction speed. Several years later, he would MAX Power Roshi from Dragon Ball should tie with Robonyan for number 1 on Sub-relativistic+ via, maybe who killed markiplier characters somewhere in hypersonic, was the nearly hypersonic+ or the mach 6.6 version of the longlegs calc accepted, I can't find it, but Wally is no longer faster. As verbs the difference between speed and battle If so I just wanted to ask why doesn't frisk or the UT verse have this? I've been sitting on loads of accepted speed calcs for Bleach for a long, long time. Speed is simply how fast a character can move in a given amount of time. For details about the Faster than the Eye rating see here. Characters or objects that demonstrate power equivalent to destroying/creating an existentially inferior 1-D level construct of any size, or two levels of infinity/degrees of reality/fiction transcendence or similar beneath a 3-D reality. Characters or objects that are capable of significantly affecting[1], creating and/or destroying an area of space that is qualitatively larger than an infinitely-sized 3-dimensional space. In this instance it should be written as Solar System level, higher with that ability or technique. No, Beerus reacted to and dodged the explosion, no wave was involved in this (We only calculated the speed of the actual explosion's speed as a result). At the same time the typical destinations, such as stars and planets, are so large that they can easily be seen from millions of kilometers away. On the other hand, if a character or characters are described as "beings that transcend the time of the multiverse" or "who feel the flow of time in a way that does not exist for them." JavaScript is disabled. Alovenus / Ruphas Mafahl ( Always gets infinitely faster over time and are superior to Benetnash) 2. The one who, no matter how big the scale, doesn't go to the next tier. We have moved to a new external forum hosted at https://vsbattles.com. Infinite Speed (Able to travel any finite distance in zero time, or move an infinite distance within a finite amount of time. Crossing between Universes and Higher Dimensions This should preferably be evaluated case by case. This is currently accepted as Supersonic+ but I think that's iffy, and that we don't have enough evidence for it Let's say character A is mach 6500 (6.5x MHS+) As such it isn't proof of a low attack potency, if a character's attacks only cause a small amount of destruction. Its like immeasurable sonic meeting anti spiral. There are 2 versions for this feat. Lightning speed = 436.5236 KM/S(Mach 1282.798834) + Destructive Capacity is the term used to determine the amount of damage a character can produce. Suppressed Beerus/Super Saiyan God Goku - Baseline Infinite Speed God's Crimson Radiance Super Saiyan Goku - 50x Post-Zenkai Base Goku - At least 100x Post-Battle of Gods Super Saiyan Goku - At least 5,000x Pre-Future Trunks Saga Super Saiyan Blue Goku - At least 250,000x Take note that, due to considerable problems with trolls and vandals, it is automatically required that our members wait for 4 days after first creating an account before they are able to edit, and they must also have a confirmed email address. But such details are only known to those who can travel through additional spatial dimensions. Rules of the Wiki Click Here DA RULES General Rules Please utilize proper swag to the dankest degree possible. Simply, this will be getting all the speed tiers and we'll see which are the 5 fastest characters from that tier. Regarding Intelligence and reaction Speed. I agree Vs battle wiki is dumb but your first argument is kinda bad. If you want to change that, make a crt. Despite the difficulty, it is possible for characters with certain abilities, such as Acausality, Cosmic Awareness, and Dimensional Travel, along with sufficient area of effect or hax, to keep up with omnipresent characters with measurable reaction and attack speeds. (Low end) Topics to be changed Filling or lightning up infinite-sized realms must require substantial amounts of evidence. I get the impression that the staff members on the wiki have a pretty big bias against Dragon Ball. In a Versus Match Up, free from limitations like plot or character induced stupidity, blitzing is a much more considerable outcome of a fight. Characters or objects that can destroy a large mountain, or those who can easily harm characters with large mountain level durability. It is important to note that, despite being named "Street level", this tier has nothing to do with actually affecting an entire street, with the name being more of a reference to street fighters as portrayed in martial arts movies and the like. In the this blog, the Originals were calced to have hypersonic speed based on Klaus running from New Orleans to Mystic Falls in under 10 mins of Caroline calling him for Damon Feat. Help to fix grammar or page structure errors, and to reword crude language is highly appreciated. Attack Speed The speed at which an attack moves. run fast enough that the earth lifts off the ground with each step? JavaScript is disabled. For statistics I will only mention the case of Rimuru including Stricking Strength, durability and speed. for example, Char A has a FTL speed of 100 and a multiplier of 10x Background: So Sailor Moon recently lost it's Introduction Saikis speed. For information regarding the procedure that needs to be exactly followed to register there, please click here. The timeframe it takes for a character to notice an event or reaction. However, traveling to different time periods through movement is a common feat in fiction that often leads to inconsistencies and has been done via FTL travel or running laps around the earth faster than it rotates. Since the distance needs to be changed. Is there a default assumption for feats like that? For the same reason, regular members are not able to replace existing images with new ones that share the same title, and should preferably take care to name them as something that is not generic to be able to upload them. The speed tiers used have intersecting limits, and this may be confusing to some members. As well as "verse" as a short for "universe". Discussion threads involving Reactions and Perceptions, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. The main purpose of this forum is to discuss how to properly index the statistics of characters from a wide variety of different fictional franchises. The term " Speed " normally refers to Combat Speed . Jincheol shot first and then moved his arm completely. Which of these two descriptions would be correct for a being with immeasurable speed? In fact, the difference may be as great as the magnitude of difference between Massively FTL and regular human level. Look up favourite cartoon characters for a laugh. Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Pre-Genesis Wave), brought together all the Chaos Emeralds throughout the universe, was said to be faster than Sonic ever dreamt possible, Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Post-Genesis Wave), https://vsbattles.com/threads/dragon-ball-heroes-xenoverse-immeasurable-speed-upgrade.109835/post-3439705, Top 5 earliest/slowest characters for each speed tier, {Immeasurable Infinities Edition} Fastest characters [Tier List], Top 5 Weakest Characters for Every Tier (Again), Top 5 Most Powerful Actors and Artists for each Tier. In conclusion, one Massively FTL+ character can speed blitz another Massively FTL+ character, and assuming otherwise without a logical reason is fallacious. So in short, Time = Nonexistent or Not Applicable and Distance/Time = Undefined and cannot be determined under these conditions. I was given permission to make this. In order for it to also be reaction speed, and the speed in total hence applying to the character's combat speed, the character either must have demonstrated the ability to react to sudden obstacles while traveling at this speed, have a calculation made that supports the character having corresponding reaction speed/time or otherwise demonstrate having comparable reactions. The term "Speed" normally refers to Combat Speed. 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Keep in mind, sometimes a person aim dodges and it is not as good of a feat. PLEASE NOTE! The values for High 5-A and above are obtained from here. Generally, to scale such speed feats to characters or other attacks the verse needs to provide solid evidence for it and consistently portray the character/attack and those that scale as moving that fast. Uh after doing some research regarding skill, I've come to the realization there's a blatant issue. In the process of that a number of high-tier characters have had their speed set to unknown since we, the staff that makes the updates, of course can't know for every case which speed level they should scale to. I would like some changes to be made to Rimuru's and Yuuki's abilities and stats. Fictions tend to prove this fact by the attacks and/or movement of characters not starting and finishing simultanously, even if the characters are moving a finite distance, despite the fact that this should be the case for infinitely fast characters. The reaction speed of a character also tends to be higher than their movement speed. Speed Racer vs. Summary Mario, also known as Speedrunner Mario, is one of the protagonists of TerminalMontage's videos known for Mario 64 Speedrun video, World of Light video, and Super Mario World video, alongside characters such as Kirby, Link, and Fox. As space is incredibly empty there are virtually no objects one has to navigate around between destinations. Today I would like to talk about tensura more precisely the Web Novel. Speed Relativistic wtf? 3 years is 9.461e+7 seconds. Also, don't throw a hissy fit over it, Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, That's the problem ain't easy for me to make links to all the comics I've read. In order to prevent such a predicament, some VS discussions may be open to equalizing speed. And Beerus is MFTL+ through and through. Characters or objects capable of creating and/or destroy multiple galaxies when the space between celestial objects is taken into account as well. Characters or objects that can destroy multiple continents or those who can easily harm characters with multi-continent level durability. We've already discussed the topic in, Characters from boruto in massively hypersonic at Mach 781.4338. So in this wiki, in certain cases, we scale characters reaction or combat speed to the travel speed of some character, like character A tagging a speedster (character B). This is blatantly false. Where did Raiden get the sub-relativistic speed base stat for his MGR:R key? Blitzing is different than outpacing, where a character is simply faster than the other. This is just some simple uncontroversial editing work. Yunostar 7 minutes ago User blog:Yunostar. For further information, see the "Further Explanations"-section below), Omnipresent (This is technically a state of being, rather than a speed, but has consequences for combat similar to that of a speed statistic. Characters or objects that can destroy large buildings such as skyscrapers. Speed isn't defined by any number of spatial dimensions but simply distance over time. This page is taken from the VS Battles Wiki and is NOT the property of this wiki! Yeah, me neither. 2 more replies Characters or objects that can destroy medium-sized buildings and constructions, such as large factories or large complexes such as supermarkets. Please I've always wanted to ask,shouldn't they be a thread for rebirth wally and shazam? areas within a setting that lack time or exist outside of the flow of time, cannot be used to grant Infinite speed. As such, we have moved to a new external forum hosted at https://vsbattles.com. Plus being able to be faster than their ki attacks = ? Where is Inaccessible Speed on VS Wiki??? Available on PS4, XBOX One, Steam, Switch, and Kartridge. This should all be analyzed on a case by case basis - omnipresent characters cannot be automatically assumed to have Infinite or Immeasurable speeds, and attacks coming from them do not necessarily cover the entire universe or multiverse. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I mean, things like mph, m/s, km/h are the very least self-evident, but what does the "c" mean in speed or what it stands when it comes to FTL? By this logic it takes greater speed to move around in 3 dimensions than along a single path, even though that's obviously not true. Find the ratio between the distance the character covered and the bullet covered. Please note that existing as a drawing or being made of data/information is not to be ranked at this tier, as such beings are still 3-dimensional, but on an incredibly small scale. The speed at which an attack moves. 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